W. Zacheus Cande: Evolutionary biologist in cell biologist's clothing
Text and Interview by Ruth Williams
Zac Cande wants to get to the roots of cell division and cytoskeletal mechanics.
How eukaryotic cells achieve the mammoth task of dividing
into daughter cells is a question many cell
biologists—including Cande—spend their careers trying
to answer. While most cell biologists look for
answers in one or two cell systems, however, Cande
has a nearly insatiable appetite for diversity.
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His self-professed penchant for weird and wonderful organisms ("there's always these oddball things that do really fascinating stuff, which I've always loved," he says) has led him to work on spindle dynamics in unicellular algae (1), spindle pole body formation and telomere clustering in yeast (2, 3), meiotic chromosome pairing (4, 5) and telomere clustering (6) in maize, and, most recently, the mechanisms of mitosis in the protozoan, Giardia (7). Oh, and just for the record, he's also studied mammalian cells.
In a recent interview, Cande explained that studying Giardia, an intestinal parasite, has allowed him to return to his first love: evolutionary biology. To understand how fundamental cellular processes such as division have evolved, says Cande, it's essential to look further back along the taxonomic tree than the relatively recent divergence of yeast and man.
SCHOOL DAYS
What was it that sparked your enthusiasm for science?
I had really good science teachers in high school. I
took biology and chemistry, and I got really excited
by that. Between my junior and senior years of high
school, I took a botany course sponsored by the
National Science Foundation, and that gave me a lot
of confidence.
If I'd had wonderful English teachers instead, I might be quite different. My parents weren't scientists or anything like that. My father has an engineering background, my mother was a musician.
What did you study at university?
I went to Yale, and originally I tried out chemistry,
but I switched to biology. I really loved biology,
and so I stuck with it. I liked just about everything
I studied but particularly evolutionary biology. I never wanted
to go to medical school or any of that stuff, like all my
friends, just cutting up another corpse.
How did you choose your Ph.D.?
I was studying ecology and evolution, and I was very
much influenced by a guy named Charles Remington; he
worked on butterfly evolution. I love this stuff. I thought
I could do something like that in plants. So I got
excited, and I went to work with Peter Ray at
Stanford—an exceedingly good plant physiologist—but
the project was way ahead of its time. There weren't
the necessary molecular tools. It was clear as soon
as I started that none of that was going to work. So
I did a much more conventional developmental biology/plant
hormone Ph.D. thesis.
ALTERNATIVE LABSTYLE
Was there any particular reason you chose plants?
I like unusual organisms. I've always liked plants,
I've always liked microbial organisms. Different
types of organisms that aren't mammalian/metazoan
tissue culture cells can give you an edge on certain problems.
I don't think I would've thought of it that way back then,
but I just liked being a little bit different. This
was '67. It was the hippy era!
What about the post-doc years?
There was a small element of cell biology in my Ph.D.
thesis, which was to think about whether cytoplasmic
streaming was involved in hormone movement, and so I
got interested in cell motility, streaming, and cellular
architecture. At that time, it wasn't even clear that
things like actin and myosin were important for
plants. People were thinking that things like actin
were much more muscle-based and metazoan and not
present in every single eukaryotic cell.
So I was going to work on cytoplasmic streaming with Dick McIntosh in Boulder (Colorado). But instead we thought we would work on mitosis. This all makes sense in hindsight, but none of it was predictable. It's one of these things where you wander to the top of a mountain, and you can look down when you're there, but you would never imagine that was going to be your path.
Is that how you got hooked on cell division?
Most of the things cells do are in interphase, not at
cell division, but visually, that's their most
dramatic time. So I suspect that it was seeing the
chromosomes move that really got me fired up —it's
just a thrill. It still is.
After Boulder you moved to Berkeley?
Yeah, to my surprise, I got hired as an assistant
professor! I arrived at Berkeley in January '76,
right on my 30th birthday. This is my only job. I've
never moved. I've been here for 30 years.
Much of your cell division work has been performed in
maize. Why did you choose that system?
I've worked on a variety of model organisms. But the
thing that was really wonderful about maize is that
it has the most beautiful chromosomes. The cytology
is unbelievable.
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Getting into this was really the product of three people. One was Mike Freeling, a really excellent maize geneticist here at Berkeley who convinced me to start looking at maize. Another was Inna Golubovskaya, a wonderful Russian scientist, now at Berkeley with me, who's one of the foremost geneticists working on maize meiosis. She had this incredible mutant collection. And the third was John Sedat at UCSF, who was into advanced light microscopy. He had developed deconvolution methods, so we applied this imaging technology to maize and looked at the mutants and chromosome behavior.
It was serendipity. A lot of my life has been that way. You meet somebody interesting, and they tell you a great story, and you get fired up.
A RETURN TO ROOTS
More recently, you've returned to your early passion for
evolution. Tell me about that.
I've always been interested in evolution, and in the
last five or six years my lab has gone back to thinking
about how the cytoskeleton and cell division evolved in
eukaryotes. I guess the thing that fascinates me is
you've got to go from one to two, and how do you do
it faithfully?
It's one of the most amazing things that cells do. It's clear that forming the spindle in mitosis is a dramatic and elegant event. It involves sorting and movement and this and that. In meiosis, it's even more difficult, because first the homologous chromosomes have to find each other. Evolution has made it all work!
It's fun to get back to this after 30 years.
For these evolution studies you've turned to the
microorganism Giardia?
Yeah, in most of my studies I picked the organisms
not because of the evolutionary twist, but because they had
some aspect of their biology that made it much easier to
look at, for example, chromosome structure.
In fission yeast, cytology of the chromosomes is easy because they're big and there are 3, as opposed to 16, in budding yeast. Plus you have all the molecular biology tools for yeast. Maize is incredible for cytogenetics, and it also has a wonderful mutant collection. I started working in diatoms because they have highly ordered spindles. I've worked with mammalian cells. You have to take what the systems will give you.
But Giardia, that's a real attempt to pick an organism
not because it's a little different, but because it
really might illuminate evolution. Ultimately,
plants, animals, and yeast may be very different in
how they do certain things, but the underlying
mechanism is going to be very similar. Whereas Giardia,
who knows? It is so divergent.
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Evolutionarily, plants, animals, and yeast shared a common ancestor maybe three-quarters of a billion years ago. Giardia last shared a common ancestor with man or yeast maybe two billion years ago.
What have you discovered about cell division and
spindles from Giardia?
The logic of the spindle is similar to that of metazoans.
Many aspects of its architecture are similar. Scott
Dawson, a former post-doc, started this project and
has been investigating the various motors at the
kinetochore that are involved in chromosome movement.
He found that many of the motors in metazoans are
also in Giardia, and most seem to be playing similar
roles.
Some of the motors are absent from yeast but are present in metazoans and in Giardia. It's not that yeast never had them, they just threw them away. Also, Giardia has flagella and basal bodies, just like humans. Yeast doesn't have any of that.
If you compare yeast and man, without an out group, it's hard to know what's happening. Are you really adding on or are you losing? Giardia tells you that, for example, the complexity of spindle motors is very ancient. Not that it evolved subsequent to the divergence of yeast and man.
Do you think more cell biologists should study
Giardia?
What I'm going to argue for the future is that more
of these very divergent eukaryotic microbes should be
looked at, because it's here that you're going to
begin to understand the impact of the evolution of
these very basic processes.
I think the cell biology community recognizes the importance of evolution. But their idea of evolution and thinking about evolution with respect to fundamental cellular processes is to compare, let's say, yeast and man. And maybe they throw in plants. This is sort of like comparing houses in the same neighborhood with similar building codes. Some of them have a garage, some of them don't, some of them have two stories, some have one. But these are not profound differences compared with, let's say, housing in Africa or India.
The basic problem for most cell biologists now is they're not
using microbial diversity. We've started to, and we hope
others will as well.
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